Turn Me On (P)review: Psych Set Visit Interview with Dule Hill

The character of Burton “Gus” Guster that Dule Hill plays on the hit USA Network show, Pysch is a far cry from the character of Charlie Young he played on The West Wing. Dule talked to our group about what geeks him out, his favorite video games and what television shows he enjoys. This New Jersey born actor still lives in the Garden State also talks about what it is like living in Vancouver for part of the year.

Dule Hill comes across as the average guy you would meet on the street. He doesn’t act like he is the star of a hit television show with an impressive body of work, he seemed accessible. Taking time from his busy schedule and it is seriously busy since he, like his co-star James Roday is in almost every shot. Dule sat down with our group just before lunch to chat about the show and his long list of nicknames.

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Panel: I actually have a question. Turning back the wayback machine, because I was a big fan of The West Wing, how did find the transition from West Wing to this new character, which is really different than Charlie Young?

Dule: I mean, the hardest part for me was getting used to improv’ing, going off of the dialog, because Roday is great at doing that, and he would go all over the place. And coming from Aaron Sorkin, it was, “What is on the page is what you say.” So that—it was a shock to my system at first. I was like, “What the heck are you doing? Like, “That’s not what’s in the script,” you know. But once I realized that and kind of started to work on that, it wasn’t that difficult. It was nice to do something different. That’s what I wanted to do. I wanted to go in a completely opposite direction because I thought, with The West Wing, if I tried to do another drama, or I would—if I tried to do another drama, I would get—I felt that I would be let down because I realized that that was such a unique piece.

So I would say no, it wasn’t that difficult. I mean, it’s two completely different characters, the writing is completely different, and I just went with it. I’m an actor, you know, so I hope I can change characters here and there.

Panel: I like the new character, because I’ve only been able to see one episode yet—the first one of this new season. And just, the byplay you and James have was just, like, phenomenal. Like, okay, I like this.

Dule: It’s also been a work in progress, too. I think if you watch from the pilot to now, the show is—the show has grown. I think—

Panel: Gus doesn’t throw up as much.

Dule: Gus doesn’t throw up as much. You’re right. You know, as individuals, like myself and Roday and all the actors, we’re, I guess, becoming more comfortable with our characters, and moulding them more and, you know, finding new things about them. So it’s been a work in progress, which is why I like doing series television, though, because you’re not stuck with just, “This is it.” You have—if you’re blessed to have a show that runs a long time, you can continually keep working on it. That’s what’s fun about it.

Panel: So I do have a question, because I noticed that from the end of last season and during this season with the firehouse, you rescuing Juliet, but also the tapping, it seems as if you’re becoming less of the Watson and more of an equal partner to Shawn. You’ve always been that, but you’re kind of calling it out more, I notice, the writers.

Dule: You could be right about that. I mean that’s more of a writer’s question, but from the time that I—Steve had always said he had planned to do that as the show went on, that they’d be more equal partners, so, and less—and he would be less of a sidekick. That was even—he said if I—even before I really got the role, well, he had said that. So, I mean, you’re probably right about that.

Panel: Okay. Maybe because I kind of watched three episodes back to back and [indiscernible].

Dule: Right, yeah. I feel like now, it’s been—obviously, you know, Shawn Spencer is the main guy, but I do feel that it’s a two-hander. I feel that we play off each other a lot, and that kind of gets through.

Panel: Do you feel [indiscernible] of the straight man in the show? Because, I mean, you’ve got Lassiter at one end of the spectrum, you’ve got Shawn at the other end, and then when Shawn and Gus get together, often Gus plays the straight man to Shawn’s antics. But then you’ve got—like, Gus sometimes pulls on Lassiter.

Dule: I mean, I think—honestly, I mean, I think it—we just—it’s just a fluid machine. I mean, sometimes—we’re all just trying to make the best joke, make the joke work, so there’s no real thing about, “Hey, you’re the straight man, I’m the funny guy,” you know. It’s just like, “Look, what works?” So for—if there has to be a straight man for a bit to work, he’ll do it. You know, if Tim has to do it, or Maggie has to do it, I have to do it, we’re just trying to make people laugh.

Panel: What were the buddy comedies or buddy shows you watched growing up?

Dule: I watched—I guess I watched Miami Vice. I watched that. I watched Starsky and Hutch. I don’t know if it was a buddy thing, but I did watch TJ Hooker. That wasn’t a buddy thing, but it was a cop drama. Let me see. I met Stoney Jackson. I never watched his show, but I did meet Stoney Jackson from The Insiders. That was a buddy show back in the ’80s. You know what I mean? And I think those are the ones, I think.

Panel: Was there some kind of, like, a fondness for the genre that, you know, you were nostalgic for, or was it just the character that spoke to you?

Dule: It was more the character. I mean, I thought the writing was very funny when I read the script. I thought, you know, if we had a chance to do the show for a long period of time, it would get better and better. And I thought it would be a fun world to live in, it’d be some fun episodes. And, again, it was something completely different from The West Wing, so it wasn’t so much about, you know, this buddy cop thing. I’ve always wanted to do a buddy cop show. No, not really. And I was thankful to have a job.

Panel: How was it working with Freddy Prinze recently? I know you guys did a movie together a few years ago. She’s All That.

Dule: Great. Yeah, great. I mean, Freddy came up, because he’s a friend of mine. When a role came up, I gave him a call. He said he was down to come. And it’s always good to work with your friends. We’ve been friends since She’s All That, so, I mean, this is the first time since that—since She’s All That we’ve been able to actually work together.

Panel: I like his little alien laugh.

Dule: Yeah. It was good hanging out with him, and it was good seeing him do something different, also. I mean, this is different, obviously, from the stuff he was doing back during She’s All That time. It’s different than what he was doing on 24. You know, and I think Freddy’s a very good actor, so I was glad to, you know, have him come up and do something just outside of what people normally see him do.

Next time Freddy comes, he can tap dance or something like that. He can tap, though. Freddy can tap. I don’t know if he still does now, but years ago, I used to dance at his house all the time.

Panel:  A duet.

Dule: Do you see what I’m saying?

Panel: The character of Gus is a geek. Are you a geek in real life, and what actually geeks you out?

Dule: Am I? I think everyone has some geekdom in them, I would think.

Panel: There’s a lot of closeted ones.

Dule: Yeah, you know. Maybe it’s video games. I’m a big Call of Duty guy. FIFA World Cup. I geek out over reggae music. You know, and like—I guess that would be it, really.

Panel: That doesn’t sound very geeky.

Dule: Huh? Video games are geeky. Call of Duty’s not—

[Indiscernible chatter]

Dule: You say what?

Panel: There are not a lot of dudes with dreads at Comic-Con.

Dule: No, but there are probably a lot of high dudes at Comic-Con. So you see what I’m saying?

Panel: If you’re into video games, have you checked out the new Starcraft?

Dule: No. I used to play Warcraft back—no. Yeah, Warcraft.

Panel: Yeah, Warcraft.

Dule: Yeah. Yeah, I used to play that, years ago, on computer. But since it’s moved to the—like, as of late, like the last five years, I haven’t played it, but I used to do that a lot. I used to do Red Alert, Command and Conquer.

Panel: When’s the Psych video game coming out?

Dule: I don’t now. That’d be fun. That would be fun.

Panel: Question for you. What kind of—

Dule: Command and Conquer, I used to kill at that. I used to kill it, back in the day.

Panel: What kind of shows are you watching, like, right now. Like, what interests you?

Dule: Right now, I’m watching—what is on my thing? I just got into True Blood. I’ve just gotten to that. I just downloaded those. Everyone kept talking about it, so—and I had to take this long trip the other day, so I’ve downloaded the shows, and I’m really into that right now. I like Parenthood. I like Parks and Recreation. I like United States of Tara. I love Modern Family.

Panel: All NBC shows.

Dule: No, Modern Family is ABC. United States of Tara is Showtime. I like Covert Affairs. And I do like White Collar. I’m big into White Collar. I’ve been watching that a lot, you know. It’s not just because it’s USA Network.

Panel: [indiscernible] thank you. But anything else [indiscernible].

Dule: What?

Panel: Are you a Nielson family?

Dule: Am I a Nielson family? No, I’m not, so [indiscernible]. I’ve never met anyone who’s a Nielson family, first of all.

Panel: We used to be.

Dule: Oh, yeah?

Panel: Yeah. We [indiscernible] something through my sister’s cell phone. She was able to do it. They called her and went—stopped her at a mall one day, and it would—something in her cell phone would record everything you watch.

Dule: Oh, wow.

Panel: That sounds scary.

Dule: It does sound scary.

Panel: [Indiscernible] everything from Dancing with the Stars, to Psych, to some other crazy stuff we were watching.

Dule: Wow. Wow. The Biggest Loser.

Panel: Yes.

Dule: I like that one a lot. I’m big into TV, so I mean—especially, like, when I go home, like, me and my wife, that’s like what we do. We, you know, have our TiVo set. We just watch TV, yeah.

Panel: Gus has a lot of varied interests, like, with spelling bee and the tapping [indiscernible]. Anything else you’d like to bring into the experience?

Dule: Wow. Yeah? Besides dating? Yeah. That’s kind of like a little running bit on the show now. Like, Gus just hardly gets any kind of ass. It’s like—yeah, so maybe dating. That would be nice. A little more of that. Not really—I’m trying to think. I’m always—you know, the writers always do great jobs of bringing stuff up. That’s what I like about the characters, there’s nothing that’s off limits. Gus could be into anything, you know. So maybe paintball. Maybe do a paintball episode or something like that. I don’t know.

Panel: What if Gus developed his own special ability?

Dule: He does have a special ability.

Panel: Super smeller. What?

Panel: But like Shawn.

Dule: No, I don’t think he’d want to do that.

Panel: No?

Dule: No. He likes to just take in the aromas of the air, and dissect the consistencies.

Panel: Couldn’t handle it.

Dule: Yeah, no. No, I don’t think he’d want to see all that.

Panel: What makes Shawn and Gus work so well? What makes their relationship work so well?

Dule: They’re like two different sides of the puzzle. You know, I think they complete each other. I guess they—you know, they—

Panel: You need them to say that. “You complete me,” somewhere.

Dule: Yeah. You know what I mean?

Dule: I do think they balance each other off. I think Shawn without Gus would be too far in the extreme of being wild and crazy, and I think Gus would be too far in the extreme of being closeted and just doing—going to work, going home, not doing anything. So I think they kind of both challenge each other to step outside of their comfort zones.

Panel: Now, will we ever see an episode where we see how Shawn and Gus met?

Dule: That would be a good flashback.

Panel: [Indiscernible] [neighbors] or?

Dule: They’ve been friends since, I mean, very, very young. That would be a very interesting episode. A flashback.

Panel: Shawn trying to con Gus.

Dule: You know what I mean?

Panel: [Indiscernible] the little box now.

Dule: Yeah, that would. That would be interesting, to see how they met.

Panel: Battleship.

Dule: I never thought about how they met. I just figured they always knew each other, which they have from a very young age.

Panel: Since [indiscernible].

Dule: Yeah. I mean, you’ll probably see that in, like, the last episode. You’ll probably see, like, how did they meet.

Panel: Of all the nicknames that you’ve been given, which is your favorite? Which is your favorite nickname, and which one did you say, “No, no. I don’t want that.”

Dule: I don’t say no to any of them.

Panel: No?

Dule: Yeah, no, because they’re always pretty funny. Gus “Silly Pants” Jackson was—I’ve always liked that from season one, because that was, like, one of the first ones he did, and he kind of did it off the top of his head. And I was like, “What? What?” I was like, “What did you call me?” You know, and, again, that, you know, puts me into the Stoney Jackson family, so why not? You know.

Panel: And how come Shawn never gets a nickname?

Panel: [Indiscernible] from a die harder.

Dule: Oh, wow. I forget about some of these, too.

Panel: Chaz Bono.

Dule: Wow.

Panel: [Indiscernible] Wiki entry with all of the aliases that Gus has.

Panel: I like the John Jacob [ph] one, myself.

Dule: I like Magic Head, too. I did like that one.

Panel: Yeah, Magic Head was good.

Panel: How come Shawn never gets nicknames?

Dule: His nicknames always have something to do with—what’s the man’s name? What’s the man’s name? His nickname always has something to do with the bald-headed dude from Titanic.

Panel: Oh, it’s [indiscernible].

Panel: Zane.

Dule: Yeah, he always has some kind of Zane—

Panel: Billy Zane?

Panel: [Indiscernible] Chad Michael Murray.

Dule: No, no. Never Chad Michael Murray. But what’s the man’s name?

Panel: There’s Judd Nelson [indiscernible].

Dule: No. What’s the other guy’s name? Now it’s going to drive me up the wall. He’s in a—he’s always into this guy. He did the Moses thing. He did a whole bunch of stuff, and how he’s—

Panel: Charlton Heston?

Dule: No. Batman. He was Batman.

[Indiscernible chatter]

Dule: Yeah, I’m tripping. [indiscernible] That’s [indiscernible], too. He did the Moses thing. You don’t remember when he did the Moses play? The musical at the Kodak Theatre in LA.

Panel: The Ten Commandments.

Dule: Yeah, the Ten Commandments.

[indiscernible chatter]

Dule: Yeah, it was a musical.

Panel: He actually sang it?

Dule: Yeah, it was a—yeah, he sang. Yeah. Yeah.

Panel: So how long have you tapped for?

Dule: Since I was three.

Panel: Did your mother sign you up? Your father? Like, who’s—like—

Dule: My mother was a ballerina. She was teaching at a dance school, and my older brother and my cousins were all going, so I went to just go and be a part of—you know, I was following the crowd. I did jazz tap, and ballet. And then the older I got, I just kept going more and more towards tap.

Panel: Okay.

Dule: And once, I think at the age of 10, is when I got The Tap Dance Kid. Once I had a chance to work with Harold Nicholas, that was it. I was hooked on tap after that.

Panel: Have you had a favorite guest star on the show so far?

Dule: A favorite guest star? It’s probably who was up last. I mean, every week, we have such wonderful people. Let me try to think. I mean, obviously, Phylicia Rashad, I mean, that was great. That was great. And—there’s so many people. Having Carl Weathers up here was cool, too. You know, everybody. I mean, like I said, every epi—we’ve been really blessed on this show to have such wonderful guest actors come through. You know, I mean, every week, there’s somebody who’s exciting. George Takei was cool when he came.

Panel: Yeah, he was awesome.

Panel: Yeah, I loved that.

Dule: And if you think about it over the five years, it’s like, wow, we’ve had a lot of people. You know, and we—like, our first season, before we really got on the air, it was hard to get people, you know, to come up. They were like, “What? No, I’m not coming up.” So it’s getting a lot easier now. So that’s one of the joys of being on the air for so long. But we’re thankful every time somebody comes up. We’re thankful it happened. And everyone comes out and likes to play. They like to have fun. They always say, “This is, like, the best week I’ve had in a long time on the set.” So, you know.

Panel: Now, if you could guest star in any show, what would you want to guest star on?

Dule: On any show right now? Probably Modern Family because I like it so much. And I wouldn’t mind being a vampire. So my thing would be Modern Family, being a vampire on True Blood or something like that, and then being able to go tap on Glee. Bring some friends, and tap on Glee.

Panel: Oh, yeah. That would be awesome.

Dule: Yeah, those would be, like, the three, you know. But I’d only want to do Glee if I could tap. Otherwise, if I couldn’t tap with my friends, then I wouldn’t want to do it.

Panel: You and, I guess—what’s his name? Harry Shum [ph] could have a dance-off.

Dule: See? There you go. That’s actually on my TiVo too, but I’m behind on that.

Panel: Glee?

Dule: Yeah. Yeah. Like, I have—like, I was looking at it just yesterday. I was like, “Damn, I’ve got all these still to catch up on.”

Panel: I was going to ask you, how do you find Vancouver as a working city? I’m a local, so I don’t know about anybody else. So I just—how do you find it, just as far as going out, finding things to do?

Dule: A lot of nice restaurants. I like the restaurants a lot. I’m a foodie, too. I love food. And actually, Chi McBride was up here on the show the other day, and he’s a real foodie. So he’s up here doing Human Target. I was supposed to be linking up with him to go hit the nice restaurants, because he knows. He knows all the spots. But I like it in the summertime. Summertime is nice. There’s always some bar I find, which is cool. Right now, I’m at the Corner Suite. Corner Suite is this great bar, food spot that, you know, we all hang out now. Every year, there’s always a new spot. But I like it. The people are nice.

I mean, the club scene, it’s a little crazy. It’s not really—you know, I feel like there’s not really a spot up here where it’s a lounge, but it’s a more mature crowd, [indiscernible] chill out. Like, it’s always like the—it’s like Granville Street is kind of crazy, so I only make it out there every once in a while. But I like it, though. I like it.

In the winter, I could see how it could get a little depressing because it’s like this all the time. After the eighth day of this, you’re like, “Okay, you know what?” Right.

Panel: Can you relate to Gus a lot?

Dule: I guess I can because, I mean, he comes out of me. You know what I mean? I don’t think we have—I mean, we’re not really that similar, I don’t think, though. I’m not anywhere near as—well, I would say I’m not anywhere near as anal, but you’d have to ask people around me. They might be like, “Yes, you are.” Yeah. I mean, I think Gus is cool. I like Gus.

Panel: We named our dog after Gus. We just got a new puppy dog. We named him after Gus.

Dule: Oh, really? I hear that. Your next dog you can name Silly Pants Jackson.

Panel: Yeah, [Indiscernible] that too, we’re like, we’ll use only Gus’s nicknames.

Dule: I hear that.

[Indiscernible chatter]

Panel: [indiscernible] confused dog.

Dule: Yeah, what is my name?

Panel: I have a question. Since you just said, like, “I hear that,” like, three times, did they pull that from you for Gus?

Dule: Yes. Yes, that does happen a lot. You know, a lot of things that we do off camera makes their way into the show. “I hear that” is definitely a Dule-ism.

Panel: [Indiscernible] all the Dule-isms.

Dule: Yeah. And, like, “You know that’s right.” I got that because one day, my brother and my friend Tiffany were talking and laughing about how cats used to say that back in the day. I was like, “You know what? I’m going to take that and use that, too.” So now I—so you hear Gus say, “You know that’s right.” What else?

Panel: “Wait for it.” “You know what I mean.” “I hear that.” “Hold on.” [Indiscernible].

Panel: There was a “what” before, too.

Panel: Yeah, there was a “what.”

Dule: I don’t know how the “what” just came about. It was—

Panel: It’s [a common] Dule-ism.

Dule: Yeah. Like, that is something I think more started with the show. I wasn’t really saying, “What,” like that. Not how we do it on the show. I wasn’t really saying that before. So I don’t know if that came from Roday. I don’t know how that came up. Now I say it more because we say it so much on the show. You kind of, you know, keep morphing into one person.

Panel: So you use lavender oil, to–?

Dule: You know what I mean? And then the high-pitched, “I don’t know.” That was me off-camera one day, talking to an AD, just playing around, just acting the fool, and I said it like that. And I was like, “Oh, yeah. I’m going to start doing that, too. Watch. I’m going to get that in the show.”

Panel: Actually, she’s right. You do have the best high-pitched scream sound on set.

Panel: It’s great.

Dule: [indiscernible] Yeah. That was a Gus thing, though. That was in the script. I don’t normally run around and scream at the top of my lungs, all high like that.

Panel: Who else would you like to see as—actually, I would say, compared to everyone else, because we just talked to [indiscernible]. Who would you have? And he isn’t dating Julie. Juliet isn’t dating, so technically, you’ve actually had two people that you’ve dated on the show, and Shawn has only dated one person. So kind of—

Dule: I’ve dated two people?

Panel: Three people, actually.

Dule: I mean, I’ve got out—I have gone on three dates, I think. I have gone on three dates, and I’ve married one person.

Panel: So who else would you like to have as a love interest, even if it’s temporary?

Dule: Even if it’s temporary?

Panel: Which it would be, since—

Dule: Yeah, it’s always temporary. You know, I haven’t really thought about it, to be honest with you. I mean, I always say somebody like Halle Berry, but that’ll never happen. You know what I mean? Lisa Bonet? That’d be cool. I don’t know, just anybody. Anybody’s good for Gus. You say what?

Panel: [Indiscernible]. Push it up here in the [indiscernible].

Dule: Yeah, right. Lisa Bonet would be cool. That would be a fun one.

Panel: She’s not working, is she?

Dule: I don’t know. Hopefully she will be soon, [indiscernible] on Psych.

Panel: What about the ad-libbing on the show between you and James? Like, just—does it ever kind of get out of hand? Like, we were just watching that scene downstairs where you guys were like, “Doctor? Doctor?”

Dule: I don’t think it ever—I mean, if it does get out of hand, then, you know, Steve, Chris, or Kelly will cut it. So, they give us free reign to kind of just see where it goes, and they make it work in the end. And you have to be willing to try stuff. You have to be willing to fail. So sometimes, I guess, I would say it gets out of hand. But if you don’t, then you don’t find the stuff that works, also, you know. But I think at this point, we have a pretty good barometer of, like, now, of where—you know, where we should—what space we should be in.

Panel: But you get to play within, like, your script.

Dule: Yeah. Yeah. And we’re—we can—I mean, if we come up with an idea, we can just go with it and see where it goes. But we’re very aware that shows are long, and if you make a bit too long, it’s not going to make it, and all that kind of stuff. I know, like, early on, we used to do, like, this—you know, this, like—we’d pull stuff [makes funny noise] and Steve wasn’t having that. Steve called one day with, like, “Okay, you know what? Enough of that.” Like, “That will not happen anymore.”

Panel: Is there like—are there things in the scripts that are like homework? Like, in the scene we just watched, the Spies Like Us, and—I know that scene because I’ve seen that movie. But if you hadn’t, I’d assume you’d want to go back and watch that scene so you could do that. It seems like the show’s riddled with tons of pop culture references that you have to sort of absorb if you didn’t know them.

Dule: The funny thing is, I have not seen that movie, and I have no idea what the scene is. I mean, because a lot of times, things move so fast on the show, I don’t—you know, and it’s all these little pieces in there that—for me, anyway, to keep up would be just too much. A lot of times, I just ask.

Panel: So you don’t go to YouTube and look up the—

Dule: Sometimes I will. Sometimes I will, but there’s always so many—like, in the script, there’s probably like, I don’t know, 10 or 15 references. It’s like, ah, [come on]. So I just ask the writer, “Okay, what is this about?” Or ask Roday, like, “Okay, what is this? Oh, okay.” So—okay, okay. Cool. And then go with it.

Panel: You need to see that.

Dule: Say that again.

Panel: I said you need to see that movie.

Dule: There’s a lot of movies I need to see, trust me.

Panel: I haven’t seen it either, if it makes you feel any better.

Dule: There’s a lot of movies. And I’m kind of fine with that. I mean, it’s between—between Roday, and Steve Franks, and, like, Andy Berman who are just very much like movie people, I’m very fine with not seeing all the movies. [Indiscernible].

Panel: Maggie made a comment about Juliet and Gus pretty much, on average, once per season, really bonding over something, whether it’s like the geekiness of Comic-Con and, you know. Or when—Shot in the Dark, or—yeah, Shot in the Dark. So how do you feel, like, as sort of Gus being the partner, and then Juliet being the love interest, and how did they connect, in your mind, relationship wise?

Dule: Relationship wise? [Indiscernible].

Panel: I mean, they’re beyond tolerating each other. They obviously—

Dule: No, I think—I mean, he likes Juliet. I mean, Gus likes Juliet. I mean, I think he thinks if it were to ever happen, it would be a good thing for Shawn. He also thinks that maybe he’s—he probably doesn’t force the issue at all because maybe he thinks that Shawn may not really be ready to handle—

Panel: He’ll screw it up.

Dule: To be who he needs to be for Juliet. You know, I think whenever Shawn gets to a place where he’s ready, I think Gus will support it. But he likes Juliet. I think he likes Juliet a lot. Now, if Shawn wanted to date Lassiter, that would be a problem.

Panel: Maggie [indiscernible] Gus and Shawn. [Indiscernible]. It was like, would they jump the shark if Juliet and Shawn got together? She goes, “It would jump the shark if Gus and Shawn got together.”

Moderator: We have time for one more question.

Dule: And they should see, like, what happens when they do actually—I mean, at some point, they’ll get together, so when they do, it’ll be interesting to see what happens because that would change—obviously, that changes—one, will they last? If they do last, how does that affect Shawn and Gus in their interaction and—you know, there’s so much to—Gus’s life and Shawn’s life, is—with them interacting with each other. You start adding in a third person like that, it’ll be interesting.

Panel: Do you have any other upcoming projects? Are you ever going back to New Jersey again?

Dule: I am going back to New Jersey. I was back in Jersey. I’m there all the time. My family’s still out there. And at this point, no, I don’t think I have any upcoming projects. Not right now. We’ll see what happens when the season’s over. I don’t think I do, though. Yeah, unless I’m forgetting something. No.

Moderator: All right, cool. Thank you, everybody.

Panel: Thank you.

Dule: See you all later. All right. Enjoy the rest of your day.

Panel: Thank you.